• where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
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    28 days ago

    Trust me, if you wanna learn German by being airdropped into the country with a dictionary, you’ll have a very very bad time compared to what Goethe Institute teaches.

    Because in order to properly speak the language you need to know the grammar. And you will almost certainly not ever grasp it properly on your own without guidance by an experienced educator. Germany is full of those people who after decades of living there keep making awful grammatical mistakes. While people who went to Goethe Institute usually don’t.

    Same for people who learn JavaScript from a tutorial and suddenly they’re a web dev, but understand nothing about algorithms complexity and so the whole fuckin internet is so slow it hurts.

    Precisely because of that attitude of yours.

    It takes a day to learn how to train an AI model in python. It takes a PhD to understand what you’re doing.

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      27 days ago

      You can theoretically learn it all on your own. There’s no magic barrier that says you can’t. The ”only” problem is motivation and arranging a plan and materials. Is it better or feasible and realistic for just about anyone? Probably not.

      Pretending otherwise is just odd. There’s no magic to it. It’s just your brain, material and exercise. It can be plain or it can be fun and hands on.

      I don’t know why you suggested that you only can learn algorithms and complexity during formal education but not the hill to die on. It’s pretty simple concept after all.

      Aside from again taking my words and twisting them to „formal education is useless and everyone is better off learning on their own” which I never said nor meant. You also suggested that I think some kind of random JavaScript tutorial is what I meant by alternative to formal education which again is your own liberal interpretation of my words and kind of insulting to be honest.

      You are fighting the argument I never made and point I never meant which you are by all means free to do so but it is kind of pointless and a bit awkward. But if someone else ever makes it I guess it is just copy paste now for the future heated debates.

      Also this is prime example that someone can be well educated but still a bit struggling with reading and text comprehension to the point it is hard or impossible to communicate effectively.

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        26 days ago

        You can theoretically learn it is not the point. Your point was “I can learn how to code up a website in a week, and my degree wastes 4 years”. No, it doesn’t.