My Christian parents would ground me for an entire summer for watching the Simpsons.
But if they wanna watch Oz in front of me where a prisoner rapes another prisoner and then hangs himself, then somehow that’s not as bad as the Simpsons?
You also kill dogs, I think that was a factor. Also I was like 6, not exactly old enough to grasp the historical context or moral ambiguity of murdering murderers. But yeah, “love the sinner, hate the sin” is a major tenet of Christianity, even if seemingly no one practices it.
In case non-native English speakers don’t understand.
The word “murder” is an old legal term meaning: unlawful killing of a person. This implies that there are lawful ways to kill a person. Slang usage of the word “murder” is less precise.
A proper translation of the Bible’s 10 Commandments prohibits murder, that is, don’t kill anyone in a way that your tribe forbids. It does not prohibit every kind of killing of people, that would be ludicrous. This is why those Christians who have the viewpoint of 100% no killing of people are misguided.
Not entirely misguided, just more evangelical. If murder is killing a way your tribe does not allow, but your tribe does not allow any killings (pacifism), you get thou shalt not kill.
In Germany the original Wolfenstein used to be kinda illegal (there is a sutle difference which is not the point here), because of the “fascist propaganda” facepalm. Still… It was the first 3d shooter I had and I mostly shit my pants, because I was 6 years old xD
I don’t know why he put that as a literal quote. As far as I remember it was simply about the nazi symbols like the swastikas, which are illegal in Germany for good reason.
For a long time, Germany treated any mention of nazis or depictions of swastikas as basically infohazards, scp style. You can’t become the fascist if you don’t know what a fascist is, or so the thinking went. Imo a lot of what was really happening was German guilt and attempting to hide history from their youth.
It was about the depiction of swastikas, which is not allowed except for film and art. But it needed a little time to get to the understanding that video games are art.
And it took even longer for companies to make use of that freedom instead of playing it safe.
It was because it showed Nazi symbols. This was applied for a long time for games sold in Germany and Austria and even accidentally for Switzerland (it sometimes gets convoluted in there because of the German-speaking part).
As a child I was allowed to play Doom but not Wolfenstein for this exact reason.
My Christian parents would ground me for an entire summer for watching the Simpsons.
But if they wanna watch Oz in front of me where a prisoner rapes another prisoner and then hangs himself, then somehow that’s not as bad as the Simpsons?
Wait in wolfenstein you kill nazi , so its OK to kill demon but not Nazi?_?
You also kill dogs, I think that was a factor. Also I was like 6, not exactly old enough to grasp the historical context or moral ambiguity of murdering murderers. But yeah, “love the sinner, hate the sin” is a major tenet of Christianity, even if seemingly no one practices it.
But they were Nazi dogs.
They were just following orders! You know, sit, shake, kill the Jews…
I had this exact conversation, and used this argument, with my own parents.
It must have worked. I was allowed to play Wolfenstein, anyway.
If you’re a Christian, yes. Not killing people is supposed to be like their number one rule.
The crusades:
That’s the “supposed to be” part
No, killing is fine. It’s murder that’s not ok
In case non-native English speakers don’t understand.
The word “murder” is an old legal term meaning: unlawful killing of a person. This implies that there are lawful ways to kill a person. Slang usage of the word “murder” is less precise.
A proper translation of the Bible’s 10 Commandments prohibits murder, that is, don’t kill anyone in a way that your tribe forbids. It does not prohibit every kind of killing of people, that would be ludicrous. This is why those Christians who have the viewpoint of 100% no killing of people are misguided.
Not entirely misguided, just more evangelical. If murder is killing a way your tribe does not allow, but your tribe does not allow any killings (pacifism), you get thou shalt not kill.
Checks out, what with the current state of the Christian-right in the US.
In Germany the original Wolfenstein used to be kinda illegal (there is a sutle difference which is not the point here), because of the “fascist propaganda” facepalm. Still… It was the first 3d shooter I had and I mostly shit my pants, because I was 6 years old xD
Funny that they considered a game where you kill fascists as “fascist propaganda”. Like, without the propaganda, how do you know they’re fascists?
I don’t know why he put that as a literal quote. As far as I remember it was simply about the nazi symbols like the swastikas, which are illegal in Germany for good reason.
For a long time, Germany treated any mention of nazis or depictions of swastikas as basically infohazards, scp style. You can’t become the fascist if you don’t know what a fascist is, or so the thinking went. Imo a lot of what was really happening was German guilt and attempting to hide history from their youth.
Nope, history wasn’t hidden since '68.
It was about the depiction of swastikas, which is not allowed except for film and art. But it needed a little time to get to the understanding that video games are art.
And it took even longer for companies to make use of that freedom instead of playing it safe.
It was because it showed Nazi symbols. This was applied for a long time for games sold in Germany and Austria and even accidentally for Switzerland (it sometimes gets convoluted in there because of the German-speaking part).