• andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    I have my weird takes on that whole conflict, but I was silenced for criticizing my homeland where I actually live and calling out one exact delusional user.

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      6 months ago

      Sorry sweaty, but saying anything bad about authoritarian governments (aside from Israel) is xenophobia, you’re clearly just suffering from transnationalism and were born in the wrong country

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      6 months ago

      As an American I’m just questioning why we should care about this conflict. At least with Ukraine there’s a lot of nations that want to invade America basically testing their new toys. That might be used against us in the future. But Palestine v humas are two small nations I’ve never heard of fighting in a part of the world that has been in constant chaos for as long as I’ve been alive. So it’s kinda hard for me to ask what’s new. Especially when I as a sitizen struggle to afford a home eat own a car or get a decent paying job. All the while taxes are getting higher and higher with each month. Yet somehow my government that struggles to keep me alive is somehow well off enough to send more money I can even comprehend to conflicts in a shit hole part of the world. Couldn’t even be bothered enough to consider sending a dime of that money towards helping Africans feed themselves or get them drinkable water. No just gonna blow all that cash on guns.

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        6 months ago

        I know you said you don’t care, but it’s more like Hamas exists within Palestine, it’s Isreal vs Palestine but Isreal is trying to pretend that they only care about Hamas.

        It’s kind like if the Bloods or Cryps in the US had a military that occupied places in NY so Pennsylvania decides to bomb the shit out of Manhattan because some Bloods occasionally fire on Philadelphia and took some Pennsylvaninans hostage and did terrible things to them. There’s a way to try to handle that which does not include killing all the innocent people in Manhattan just so you could get to the few gang members you wanted to hit.

        Except there’s the “hidden” aspect where very wealthy Pennsylvaninans want to own parts of Manhattan so if they can kill enough people there and take over some land they can have the real estate they want.

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        6 months ago

        Israel is basically a european\american sattelite in that region that has a potential to ease the involvement if something there goes in a conflict to their interests first or some global massacre second, but what we see with Bibi is that he leveraged the position of this country to the point they can dictate others to support them, and although they don’t need money for their little genocide, they ping other countries for them to show loyalty. I don’t think it costs that much for an individual like you since MIC by default costs trillion+ of dollars annually, but that’s a different topic.

        What matters is that unlike ukrainians, jewish people after WW2 spread across the whole world and there are a lot of citizens with an israili citizenship in both the West and the ex-SocBlock. That makes everything invloving Israel relevant globally. There is still a problem of hatred towards jewish people, and they succeeded at calling it out unlike romanians or any other genocided minority. Thus, it succeedes at making it everyone’s problem and not a local one, like many hot conflicts going on, when it mixes up historical genocide with every conflict they get involved in.

        They intentionally make it hard to distance from them. While it does have a potential value for other states, to bring down something like HAMAS or Al-Kaida for example (if they can do that at all), it got too comfy with that sentiment going on. And for a taxpayer in the US I’d probably question not why they are funded at all, but why they hold other countries as pawns and openly show how they don’t give a fuck about their reputation and international law because they’d get funded anyway. From the funder’s perspective, they are leeches ignoring the agreement and testing how long they can go with it. And tolerating that only enables such behavior.