I had In The House - In A Heartbeat playing in my head while making this meme

sorry for the pixelation in the corner, I used a shitty website which put a watermark there

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    5 months ago

    I’ve only looked at Canada and Japan personally, but I can add that Japan also does this. The process of immigrating is to effectively prove you’ll be a net positive on their economy if you live there, limiting disability is one way they can do that.

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      Well, hey, all I can say is that’s not how it works either in my home country or in the other place where I lived as a long term resident, and I am glad that’s the case. Over here even undocumented migrants have a right to health care, which was not uncontroversial but is definitely the right call.

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        5 months ago

        Yes illegal migrants have access, as well as do everyone else in those places like people taking in during war.

        The topic is specifically about people immigrating to those places from a country without soical nets, to a place with social nets, where they can only take from the system and never put back.

        Illegal migrants and people accepted during wars, WILL eventually contribute to society. Immigrants that are already disabled is something else entirely.

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          No it’s not. First of all, there is no requirement to be healthy to be able to be a migrant here. That’s not a thing in either my home country or the country I personally moved to. Both of those place have “social nets”.

          I get being annoyed at the places where that is true, but why assume it’s universal? It clearly isn’t.

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            Or you just don’t understand the verbiage.

            Which countries? I bet if we looked through there would be limitations.

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              I literally moved to a different country and lived there for a decade. I think I would have noticed while I was filling all the forms. I talked to no doctors, I answered no questions and nobody ever brought it up. The first time I got a physical after moving it was the yearly checkup at work.

              And I’ve worked with migrants here as well. Hell, I’ve hired migrants. In one case we messed up the paperwork and had to start over. Not once did we check for any disability exemption of any kind.

              And no, I’m not telling you my life history just because you’re too conservative to assume that countries don’t just issue blanket bans for sick people to be immigrants, go google it or something, do some research before telling other people on the Internet how the world works.

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                What countries? You can’t prove your claim without anyone being able to verify it.

                Make excuses, but you need to provide the countries or your claims are quite frankly bullshit and not valid.

                We don’t need a life story lmfao, two countries. Thats it.

                And why are you saying I’m conservative? Because I’m calling out your bullshit claims? lol good one dude.

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                  Because you are acting like a baseline of inhumanity is the norm and refusing to accept the economics of not being a complete dick could be sustainable, which is a pretty fundamentally conservative stance.

                  I’m still not telling you where I live because I am not an idiot, but what I can do is google it for you:

                  In most cases, disabled people can move wherever abled people can. Kristine Thorndyke of TEFLHero confirms that there’s no visa barrier there for disabilities. Panama is the same. Countries with universal healthcare will still extend coverage, though waiting periods and supplemental insurance may apply. In countries like Germany, where health insurance is mandatory, you’ll find private insurers to fill in gaps on preexisting conditions. Others, like Costa Rica, extend healthcare coverage for all at one nominal rate. Brazil covers medical costs for all residents for free.

                  https://expatsi.com/healthcare/disabled-expat-guide/

                  There, go be weird somewhere else.

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                    To get a visa in Panama you need to have X amount of income…. Thats the restriction on disability or being able to support yourself….

                    As I said, different verbiage, same end result.

                    Bury your head all you want.