• UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    You know, I fully support converting everyone into fem- and or tomboys, but this is really more of a shitpost than a meme and I hope you can see why it’s not exactly received well in c/memes

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    3 months ago

    This gives a very specific kind of trans woman vibe and I don’t think I like it. I think it’s the “angry masculine mannerisms” that is bothering me. Masc / butch trans women exist too, and it feels weird to imply only men get angry. This seems to simplify and put into a box what being a trans woman is.

    Edit: also HRT affects everyone differently and to act like it makes everyone cute and small and feminine is misleading. Being trans is exhausting sometimes and takes a lot of work, and some may never fit this description regardless of how hard they try.

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        3 months ago

        So far it seems youre just trying to be annoying. If you didn’t want anyone to tell you anything you could’ve just kept your meme to yourself.

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        Thanks for assuming I’m fucking cis and not a fellow fucking trans woman. Fuck you and fuck your stupid, demeaning “meme”. Fucking jerk.

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            I really hope you’re just an elaborate troll and not being serious. If you are being serious, seek professional help. If you’re just a shitty troll pretending to be trans to try to make us look bad, then truly, sincerely, go fuck yourself. 🥰

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              I understand not vibing with the brand of humor, but y’all are coming on a little strong to each other. I get the misportrayal of masculinity being an issue. This just escalated quickly.

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                If she hadn’t gone from 0 to 100 because of my very light criticism then maybe I’d be a bit more friendly. Her reaction set me off and I know I’m not in the wrong here. Fucking claiming I’m a cis man is a good way of pissing the fuck off.

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                I’m in a long term committed relationship with another woman. But go off about how I’m somehow a “pick me”. At least I’m not the one telling gender non-conforming trans women that they aren’t “real women” because they might be more masc than your ideal 100% fem and perfect trans woman. 🙄 I’ve also seen your other comments and my gosh you reek of transmed bullshit. You truly don’t understand the damage you are doing by posting dumb shit like this and it’s depressing as fuck.

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    No one remembers Metrosexual I guess. It was the 00’s attempt at trying to stop the stereotypical masculinity in hetero men.

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      Nah, people remember, it was just not that great at breaking hetero stereotypes. It just shifted them to being pretty while still thinking the same way. It was a step for sure, but not really a big one.

      What really helped break through the bullshit was gay men coming out and living life. When men started seeing the vast array of masculinity in that community, it allowed new discourse about what masculinity is, outside of the old patriarchal paradigm.

      You started seeing more men embrace their self and express it fully. The discussion about being free to express emotions, to be a nuturing man, to be gentle and kind and open with everyone started becoming a possibility instead of a weakness. And nobody had to give up anything to have that freedom. It’s still perfectly fine to be traditionally masculine if that’s who you are, as long as you aren’t trying to define others.

      From there, we all got to expand our personal definition of masculine for ourselves. And, as we move into a paradigm where everyone can just be who they are, without any need to label themselves if they don’t want to, we will be able to pick and choose even more. We can explore the fullness of human experience in a way I don’t think has ever been possible. And that is largely thanks to our trans and non binary friends and neighbors stepping up and living their lives without apology.

      Hell, if you ask me, the first step was back with the hippies and their long hair. Then the metalheads picking up that baton and running with it through the eighties until that one barrier to looking like a man was gone and likely gone for good. Those guys at the end of the boomer generation looking to escape the trap patriarchy had set for them took the first public step by growing their hair out and still being men, being comfortable with it.

      It takes time to shift perceptions. It takes people at the edges being willing to step forward and be the change.

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    Man it feels good to see this agenda pushing zealot get what she deserves. Let any right-winged individual see that the left doesn’t in fact want to “make everyone gay”, but to let them be themselves

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    So, like, I literally don’t care if someone identifies as whatever gender. You do you.

    Just don’t tell me how to do me.

    • CheesyCheese1 [She/her]@lemmy.caOP
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      3 months ago

      Hey everyone, we have a downvote troll planning vote manipulation.

      Admins be on the lookout for accounts with no history downvoting single posts, it’s probably this guy running those sockpuppets.