• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      4 yes, Starfield no. But fallout 4,nv, and fallout 3 were revolutionary, ground breaking games so I don’t get the hate.i definitely get my money’s worth when I play a modern bathesda game, so I don’t hate on them. There are some truly awful AAA games out there.

      I honestly thought Elden ring was trash, so everyone has their tastes.

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        5 months ago

        Fallout 4s writing was pretty objectively bad, the gameplay was a huge improvement though.

        Fallout 3 was pretty disappointing to most people who were expecting something like Fallout 1 or 2 but the story was definitely more competent than Fallout 4, still mediocre though. Never heard anyone call it revolutionary.

        New Vegas was made by Obsidian, not Bethesda and it’s a solid way to compare what good story looks like.

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        5 months ago

        As a big fan of 3, NV, and 4, I have to ask… What is groundbreaking or revolutionary about any of them?What did any of them bring to the table that hadn’t been done before?

        Dont get me wrong, 3 and 4 are enjoyable “comfort blanket” style games with fun maps to explore. And NV is one of the gold standards in interactive narratives. But Bethesda hasn’t really broken ground since Oblivion.

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        5 months ago

        New Vegas wasn’t made by Bethesda.
        While Fallout 3 was fun, the only “groundbreaking” part of it might be VATS. But it’s still just bullet time, so that goes to Max Payne, not Fallout 3.

        But then you say Elden Ring is trash while trying to say Fallout 4 is revolutionary… So, you got me with the trolling. It took me a minute to realize you were pretending.