• crusa187@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Yeah this is my point - when confronted with Biden’s wrongdoing, the gut reaction is “but what about Trump?”

    How come it isn’t “Let’s hold Biden accountable”?

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      9 months ago

      Voting for Trump ISN’T holding Biden accountable though. It IS putting a right wing wannabe fascist in office. The American people can still hold Biden accountable for his actions without forfeiting their right to vote. Trump Literally wants to be Putin. I don’t approve of Biden, but given the choice I would want him over Trump.

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      9 months ago

      In which ways do you propose holding Biden accountable that won’t end with helping a fascist traitor come to power?

      Can you give one example?

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        9 months ago

        Sure, but you aren’t going to like it:

        Don’t vote for him. (And don’t vote for the orange dotard either.)

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          9 months ago

          Is there any third option in the ballot? Not voting is as good as voting anyone you think is worse

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            9 months ago

            Not meaningfully in a first past the post vote. Ranked choice or some other alternative, then sure…

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            9 months ago

            Jill Stein is running, but there are going to be a lot of states where her name won’t make it onto the ballot, although she can be written in.

            I’m thankful to have ranked choice voting in my state. Every state should push for it as much as possible. Generally, the people who are against RCV are the ones who benefit from restricting the will and voting power of the voters.

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            9 months ago

            Usually people advocating not to vote for Biden are advocating for voting for PSL or another third party, not abstaining.

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          9 months ago

          When has withholding your vote brought about a positive change? It’s not like a boycott because there no financial incentive.

          The only metric that matters when voting is what percentage of active votes chose you, inactive voters have chosen to silence themselves.

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            9 months ago

            Bold assumption about not voting, this isn’t what I’m advocating at all. I think it’s important to vote in every race you can, even in such a corrupt and fundamentally broken system as ours.

            I’m saying don’t vote for Hitler, and also don’t vote for 99% Hitler.

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              9 months ago

              Ah, you’re privileged enough to think you’re insulated from any actual consequences of the election and fuck those other people, right?

              Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool…