People think that Jews in Israel are a monolith, but they actually come from different places and so have vastly different points of view.
For example, European Jews tend to favor a two-state solution whereas Arab and Russian Jews tend to disagree.
And African Jews in Israel are secretly sterilised by the state so that they can’t have children. Leading to a 50% birth rate decline compared to other groups
Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination and had no idea she had been injected with Depo-Provera.
Another was pregnant with her fifth child when she arrived in the transit camp, where she would live for seven years. The woman in her thirties told Reuben that officials had gathered together all the new mothers in the camp and told them they would be given Depo-Provera as it would be too difficult for them to give birth Israel.
“No, we didn’t want to take it, we refused. We said we didn’t want it,” the unnamed woman recalls in the film. She agreed to the injections only because she was told her immigration to Israel would be blocked and she would receive no further healthcare in the camps if she refused.
“This happened to many, many other women,” Reuben said.
Thousands of Ethiopian Jews were evacuated into Israel through covert operations by Israel.
Assessing Claims That Ethiopian Immigrants to Israel Received Birth Control Shots Without Consent
I think you are missing the point. Jewish people who live outside of Israel can’t be beholden to policies set by Israel. Its also important to note that Jewish is both a religion and a race.
Don’t let the conflicts in Israel control your treatment of other humans. If we let hate overcome us we could end up with Holocaust type situations (it doesn’t even need to be Jewish hate)
Disagree as in Free Palestine or as in eliminate all moslems?
Free Palestine
You’re missing one state solution. That’s what’s essentially going to happen as things go. They’re depopulating gaza with the plan to eventually grant citizenship to the reduced population of Palestinians so they can maintain a jewish majority. West bank alone wouldn’t cause a loss in majority, but Gaza would. They won’t grant right of return. Though that is genocide.
But is that what the Arab Jews want?
Arab Jews were expelled from their homeland (every single Arab/Muslim country) so they don’t exactly have a fond memory of living among Muslims.
But they live just fine with Israeli Arabs and just as any other human being they want to live in peace.
Only after the creation of Israel and he Nabqa. Berore that Jews and Muslims lived mostly in peace.
Forgive me, but I’m going to copy-paste another post of mine.
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“In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure.”
“in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, although they were still required to wear a distinctive patch on their clothing.”
nyet n yahoo doesn’t care about them though.
…while some other people get it wrong in exactly the opposite way (you know, the Khazar nonsense)
Ok this is a legit question, not trying to troll or bait… Are there African or east Asian jews? Like Jewish communities in Ghana or Thailand for example?
First thing coming to mind are the Jews in Ethiopia.
Yup.
Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, and tiny communties of Chinese and Japanese Jews.Interesting, I only hear of American, European or Middle East jews.
Indian Jews are also the only ones amongst Jewish communities who haven’t faced any discrimination. Despite their presence in India for around 2,000 years.
“Jewish” gets used with the loose definition of “people who have been expelled from their homeland.”
Judaism is the religion formed by the people who were expelled from Egypt. They left Egypt to settle in Israel and establish Judaism.
Over the years, Christianity and Islam gained a foothold in the region, until the UN shoved the inhabitants of Israel into Palestine.
Arguably, modern Palestinians, who largely practice Islam, are Jews.
This leads me to the question, is the term “antisemitic” specific to Judaism or does it cover other types of Jews?
Depending on the answer, you can call modern Israel antisemitic against Palestinian Jews, who want their homeland back, or at the very least to stop being oppressed in the place that they were exiled to. This would make anyone who supports Israel antisemitic.
Thank you for the knowledgeable and helpful post
That person really doesn’t seem to know what they’re talking about (Jews did not originate in Egypt, the UN didn’t “shove” anyone to the land, Jewish settlement has been continuous in the region, and after decades of pogroms which culminated in the Holocaust, many who were in the diaspora ended up returning since they didn’t feel safe anywhere else, but more importantly, like so many fleeing war and genocide today - were simply not welcomed by the “allies”. There is also no such argument that anyone who lives on that land qualifies as Jewish, that’s not how Judaism works, there are Israelis and Palestinians of all and no religion), I recommend reading some actual sources for yourself if you want to know more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diasporaAnd of course I have to defend myself in advance - despite all of the above, I am not denying that the state of Israel is occupying some lands illegally, and is oppressing and ethnically cleansing Palestine.
Both peoples have a rightful claim to parts of that land (and will, eventually, have to share other parts, or all die trying to be the only ones in control), and all deserve to live peacefully side by side on their homelands.Like I said I asked the question in good faith and did not mean anything negative. It was out of pure ignorance and the desire to correct that ignorance.
I think the prime example of your point of “being on this land doesn’t make you Jewish” is the hagie sophiea. It’s a ancient place of worship that has been “owned” by multiple religions over the years.
I used to know a black guy that was German by heritage
That’s a country, not an ethnicity or religion.
His family came from Germany several generations back.
Yeah, thats… not that weird really.
Yes but most (racist) people just assume he’s from Africa.
In the US or what? Never seen that before.
Stupid English doesn’t differentiate between citizenship and ethnicity
