• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Webp works fine for me now.

    The problem is AVIF. I mean I love AVIF (almost as much as JPEG-XL), but it doesn’t work with anything except browser web pages, even after all this time.

    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      For me webp is always some gif I’m trying to text people, and now I have to go convert it.

    • Emerald@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      My only concern with jpeg xl is… how do you know if the encoded file is losslessly compressed or not?

      with jpg and png, one is lossless, one is not. But if all the files have a jxl extension, you can’t know unless the encoder adds metadata for it, right?

      • Persi@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        I felt the same way about webp when it came out.

        In practice it doesn’t really matter:

        • if you’re encoding the file you know how you’re doing it.
        • if you’re receiving the file, you get the pixels you get no matter how it was encoded.
        • if you’re sending the image through some third party service, they’re going to reencode and mangle it anyway so there’s no point in worrying.

        Also, it turned out that even if it’s quite good, lossless webp is rarely seen in the wild because svg is more convenient.

    • thirteene@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Skill issue, the only actual drawback is that some legacy systems whitelisted image extensions and haven’t been updated. Even then just take a screenshot and upload that.

      • force@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        I have plenty of WEBP and every image editing/viewing application I have installed can use it fine. Including, but not limited to:

        pdn, GIMP, Krita, Aseprite, InkScape, OpenToonz, IrfanView

        I think Apple users have issues with Webm & Webp? But the issue here is using Apple products in the first place. Losing 90% of basic functionality is what you expect when using one of those.

      • derpgon@programming.dev
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        3 months ago

        All the memes I send to my friends on messenger basically come from Lemmy. I always have to download the image and use the phone image editor to crop it by one pixel. It then let’s me save it, and it saves as jpg/png by default.

      • Gakomi@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        No I don’t think it does but it works. Specifically I download webp pictures on pc and when I try to send them on WhatsApp it does not recognise them so I change the extension to JPG or PNG and it works it sends them and they can be viewed.

        • tweeks@feddit.nl
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          3 months ago

          Sounds like the file type verification on WhatsApp is not on mime-type but only on extension. Some receivers might have trouble opening these though.

      • The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net
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        3 months ago

        Mint’s default wallpaper manager doesn’t, and Discord doesn’t let me pick a .webp as an avatar. Those seem like 2 pretty big ones that don’t work.

        I’ve also run into other less common examples over time, but those are more random spread out things and I don’t remember what they are.

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
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          3 months ago

          Cinnamon hasn’t been keeping up for years. When I tried Mint again when I went full-time linux last year, and found the same unfixed bugs from three years prior, I ditched it forever.

          The format has been around for 13 years, and is objectively superior to its predecessors. By now it is actually set to be replaced by avif and jpgxl which are even better.

          At this point running into cases where it doesn’t work makes me question the software, not the format.

        • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee
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          3 months ago

          No offense but Mint is not a great example. They are behind in general. Still figuring out Wayland, fractional scaling and VRR, things which KDE has supported in stable releases for some time now. KDE even is getting HDR along with Cosmic and SteamOS, something Mint isn’t even close to. Mint kernels are older than Ubuntu’s, which are hardly new. I used to love Mint, but they are falling further and further behind KDE, Gnome, and System76 (PopOS and Cosmic). To me it seems the new distros for newbies are Fedora, Debian, and a few derivatives like Nobara, UBlue, and PopOS.

  • Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    At least it’s not a .art file

    If you get this reference, remember to take your daily meds on time.

  • Gemini24601@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I hate .webp, almost no software supports it. I can see it reduces the amount of space, but I’m always having to convert it

      • Evotech@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        How so. I get that the support isn’t there yet, but how is the format itself awful

        • Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de
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          3 months ago

          The format itself is perfectly fine, it’s just that most software doesn’t work with formats made in the 21st century

        • Cipher22@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Literally, you answered your own question. From the user end, unsupported file types of any frequently shared format are garbage. No one cares on the user end about server space. They care about sharing a funny image. They don’t care about 2 extra ms of load speed. They want shit to just work.

          It’s the same reason Open Office sucks. You can’t rely on it to just work. As much as dev’s hate it (myself too), reliability is king. Webp fails this measure, badly.